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Freshly baked Camino 1.6.5 now out

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For the benefit of those who use the greatest web browser on the planet, Camino has been updated to version 1.6.5.

According to the latest release page, the following changes have been made since 1.6.4:

  • Upgraded to version 1.8.1.18 of the Mozilla Gecko rendering engine, which includes several critical security and stability fixes.
  • Camino will no longer crash on startup when the Mac OS X spelling system is broken.
  • The General preference pane will no longer be missing for users who had customized the Preferences window toolbar.
  • The icon for the Google feed handler has been updated to match the new Google site icon.
  • Added CamiTools to the list of problematic add-ons.
  • Improved ad-blocking.

Freshly baked Camino 1.6.4 now out

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For the benefit of those who use the greatest web browser on the planet, Camino has been updated to version 1.6.4.

According to the latest release page, the following changes have been made since 1.6.3:

  • Upgraded to version 1.8.1.17 of the Mozilla Gecko rendering engine, which includes several critical security and stability fixes.
  • Camino again displays expiration dates for Certificate Authorities in the Certificates window.
  • Camino no longer reads OmniWeb’s "password not saved" markers in the Keychain as valid accounts.
  • Improved ad-blocking.

Downloaded Firefox 3.0, still on Camino

Firefox icon First of all I want to congratulate everyone over at Mozilla for the stellar and record breaking release of Firefox 3. Back when I was a Windows user I was an avid user of Phoenix (the original name) and eagerly awaited with almost fanatical excitement when newer beta releases were released. I’m extremely pleased that there is such a vibrant, usable, free and open source alternative to commercial web browsers on so many different platforms, especially Internet Explorer.

Camino on Mac OS X Leopard
Wait, this isn’t Firefox 3…

All this said though, and after upgrading Firefox to version 3 on my MacBook Pro this morning, I’m still typing this entry using Camino. Camino is a free, open source web browser for Mac OS X that uses the same Gecko rendering engine that Firefox does. As usual Wikipedia provides the most succinct description for the software for those who don’t know what the heck I’m talking about:

Camino (Spanish for way/path) is a free, open source, GUI-based Web browser based on Mozilla’s Gecko layout engine (also used by Mozilla Firefox) and specifically designed for the Mac OS X operating system.

In heindsight, that Wikipedia quote really didn’t add much to my own initial explanation. Mental note: don’t add superfluous and useless quotes to weblog posts any more.

Life is a big old circle. There is no beginning, and there is no end. That’s because in a circle there isn’t a beginning and there isn’t an end. And if you had any brains at all, you’d understand that!

Jimbob Kloss, Whole Wheat Radio

It’s probably more to do with me being set in my ways or preferring to use what I’m most used to, but Camino to me still provides the best Mac web browsing experience, full stop. This isn’t to say I haven’t been tempted by other offerings. In my /Applications folder I can count no less than eight web browsers including Camino, Shiira, Safari, Konqeuror, Mozilla Firefox, SeaMonkey (I still see if it can replace Thunderbird, but it doesn’t… for another post) and the PowerPC version of Internet Explorer, for testing how my sites render.

Mac OS X web browsers
If you use VICE with a virtual VICMODEM it would count right?

What makes me keep coming back for more Caminoish goodness is… it’s good for me. I’m serious, I don’t rip any hair out of my head when I use Camino. That’s a big plus in my book. For me it also excels in several critical areas:

Interface
Camino, like Safari and Shiira uses Mac OS X’s native Aqua GUI framework instead of Mozilla’s XUL to draw the elements on the screen (save for the textboxes). This means it works like a Mac application, feels like a Mac application and has all the interface cues we’re used to… because it is a real Mac application! Firefox may have Mac-like skins available, but it does show through that it’s been hacked together in many places, such as the tab bar, preference panes and window controls.
Loading time
Again because it uses Aqua and is a smaller executable, Camino loads with just a few "dock bounces" on my iBook G3 and my original generation Core Duo MacBook Pro compared to the 7-12 bounces to load Firefox each time. I’ve read it argued that Camino loads faster because it’s simply less extensible than Firefox with plugins, but with my version of Camino absolutely loaded with plugins and add-ons from PimpMyCamino.com I question how much that latter reason can really be relied upon as an explanation for performance.
Integration
As I discovered in an earlier post, Camino uses Mac OS X’s keychain to store your passwords, in the same way Safari does. According to the Camino site it also uses the native Mac Bonjour system to discover bookmarks, though I haven’t ever needed to use that feature.
Icon
Camino has the most slick web browser icon (view the image I posted above). This is a critical point and one which must not be ignored for it speaks not only for… ah I can’t pull it off.

All this isn’t to say that Camino is perfect for everyone or isn’t without faults, but from my experience it’s still the best darn Mac browser. I know I’ve said this numerous times already; it shows how much I believe it to be true.

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Recover forgotten passwords in Camino

AFTERWORD: I created this entry because I was frustrated that there were lots of guides to recover passwords in Safari (and Firefox, and Opera) on Mac, but not Camino. The procedure is about the same, but nobody had it shown anywhere as such.

One of the (many, many!) problems I encountered when I lost my phone recently was losing my password for Wireless@SG! When I signed up for the free public wifi system in Singapore I was issued a password in the form a text message on my phone. Of course, now that my phone and I have parted ways I don’t have that password.

ASIDE: I really should have written the credentials down somewhere safe besides my phone! Hindsight is a remarkably powerful and largely useless tool.

Keychain Access.app As it stands now though I can still log in to Wireless@SG because Camino remembers my password and enters it in for me automagically. What I wanted to know was, is there some way to retrieve the password from Camino in a form other than a string of asterisks? As it turns out, one of the primary reasons I still keep going back to Camino (greater Mac integration and consistent Mac interface) turned out to be my saviour, in the form of the Mac OS X Keychain.

If you have a password that Camino remembers but you don’t, you can retrieve it by opening Keychain Access.app in /Applications/Utilities/. You’ll be presented with a list of accounts that OS X has remembered the passwords for.

Double click the site that you can’t remember the password for, then click the Show Password checkbox at the bottom of the window that appears. You’ll be prompted to enter your Mac OS X login credentials. Voila, your password is presented:

Keychain Access.app

Of course, I changed my password shortly after!

Camino and Google Reader atom problems

Sharon777 on Twitter pointed out a possible problem with either the Camino browser or Google Reader. If you use Camino to browse someone’s Google Reader Shared Items page (such as mine or Whole Wheat Radio’s), an web feed notification icon doesn’t appear in the address bar:

Google Reader in Camino not showing a web feed icon

However if you click View Page Source in the View menu, you can clearly see the link to the web feed:

Google Reader in Camino not showing a web feed icon

I can’t really think why it shouldn’t find it. Perhaps Camino has trouble with Atom feeds as opposed to RSS. When I have some more time I’ll see if I can reproduce the error somehow.

Making Camino look like a Leopard app

Making Camino look like a Leopard app

With Mac OS X Leopard’s much needed move to a unified interface (aka: Burnt Aqua) some of the applications designed to look sexy in Tiger are left looking a bit silly with their white lines in Leopard. One case is my favourite web browser of all time: Camino.

Fortunately with a few quick tweaks I was able to bring Camino into the Leopard generation… kinda!

  1. Install UnifyCamino. Go to "Camino → Preferences..." and click the new "UnifyCamino" option.
  2. Set the “Shade” scrollbar to about 60% and choose “Suppress the toolbar divider
  3. Under "Other interface elements:" choose "Streamlined tabs and status bar"
  4. Download the Leopard Iconset. Control+Click Camino.app and choose "Show Package Contents". Copy the downloaded images to "./Contents/Resources/"
  5. Click "View → Customise Toolbar" and change the size of the icons to small.

That’s the closest I’ve been able to get to mimicking the OS X Leopard interface look in Camino 1.5.2.

Post a comment here if you have any other suggestions ^^.

Camino runs rings around Firefox

Today for a quick break from studies and work I decided once again to download the latest Mozilla Firefox for Mac and install it, and once again after half an hour it was wiped off my drive. Fact is, I’ve been spoiled completely by Camino.

Camino Firefox

It’s no secret to anyone that Firefox is slow on Mac. In a time where virtually every other Mac app has been written to use the Cocoa widgets or even Qt, Firefox (and unfortunately Thunderbird) still use the OS 9 era throwback Carbon widgets which really shows. The graphics and user interface in Firefox look tired and outdated, whereas the graphics and user interface on Camino look polished… and damn it Camino looks like a real Mac app.

Firefox Camino Comparison

Those complaints aside though, using Firefox today on Mac reminded me once again why I stopped using it: the scroll speed is abysmal. Despite the fact I have a MacBook Pro which you can use the two finger motion on the touch pad to scroll I still prefer to use the keyboard arrow keys, and using these there’s a noticeable lag. I’d guess that Firefox scrolls at almost half the speed that both Camino or Safari do.

Not to mention the fact that Firefox on idle with one tab open somehow manages to use so much more RAM than Camino (or even Safari) do:

Firefox, Camino, Safari RAM comparison

According to Wikipedia Gecko 1.9 will support native Cocoa widgets which should close this gap, then I’ll be able to use all the wicked Firefox plugins. Until then, I’ll continue using Camino, as I have for years.